MANHATTAN, Kan. — The Bramlage Coliseum was cannonball noisy, Wabash Cannonball-noisy to be precise, and West Virginia did nothing to quiet the rumble and the roar.

No. 13 Kansas State steamrolled the Mountaineers 71-61, leading by as many 21 points and dropping WVU to 1-11 against teams with winning records.

Only a 10-0 run by West Virginia over the final 3:26 — after K-State coach Bruce Weber removed his starters — made the final score respectable.

“We give ’em what, five layups in half-court defense in the first half and probably another three or four in the second half?” said West Virginia coach Bob Huggins. “So you’re talking 16 to 20 points on point-blank layups that eighth graders can make. How do you get those kind of shots against a half-court defense?”

“We have breakdowns and when you’re not any good, you can’t have breakdowns.”

The Wildcats (21-5, 10-3) led 58-40 with 9:24 to go when Eron Harris fouled out with zero points and only two shots. Harris knocked down Will Spradling on a screen away for the ball for his fourth foul, and officials immediately added a technical for Harris’ fifth foul claiming the blow was extra bruising.

“Spradling, that’s how he plays — he flops most of the time,” said WVU’s Deniz Kilicli. “He gets under bigs and he does a good job. I’m not saying this as a negative because he makes those plays and Eron’s a freshman. Hopefully it will be a learning experience.”

Spradling, whose 19 points topped five K-State players in double figures, made both ends of the one-and-one and the two technical free throws.

There was no mention of WVU coach Bob Huggins during the pregame introductions, per Big 12 policy. But Huggins earned himself an ovation with 16:25 left in the game, slapped with a technical after feeling Kilicli was hit on a close-in shot that went out of bounds to K-State.

Spradling, 7-of-7 from the line, made both free throws from the Huggins technical to give the Wildcats a 43-22 margin.

Kansas State sunk three quick 3-pointers and made 8 of its first 12 shots overall. By halftime, the Wildcats had cooled off to 50-percent shooting but enjoyed a 33-20 cushion. K-State, which led 33-15 after a Spradling’s wide-open 3 from the top of the key, had 10 assists on its 11 first-half baskets.

“We don’t have the luxury to give people layups, dunks and wide-open 3s because we can’t make plays on the offensive end,” said Kilicli. “We are limited offensively.”

Exacerbating the first-half woes for WVU (13-13, 6-7), Harris was scoreless in three minutes after picking up his second foul trying to stop Angel Hernandez on a fast break. Kilicli picked up his second down low after seven minutes, leading to an old-school 3-point play by Thomas Gipson.

Kilicli scored 16 points on 6-of-8 shooting but grimmaced after a second-half scrum when an official blew the whistle near his ear. It was a sound the players heard frequently thanks to 49 combined fouls.

The Mountaineers were 7-of-23 from the floor (30 percent) and 1-of-8 from 3-point land in the opening half, when its starters produced only seven points.

Kansas State shot 50 percent from the floor compared the Mountaineers 40 percent.

Reserve Nino Williams scored 13 points and Thomas Gipson and Angel Hernandez scored 11 each for the Wildcats, who temporarily took a half-game lead on conference co-leaders Kansas and Oklahoma State.

K-State’s All-American candidate Rodney McGruder scored 10 points on 3-of-10 shooting. Shane Southwell, who had 17 points in the first game against WVU, made his lone shot — a 3-pointer.

“I think (being balanced) is probably the best thing about our team,” said Wildcats coach Bruce Weber. “Every game, it is somebody else. Angel, Jordan and Shane had big games the other night. Rodney (McGruder) had good numbers, but not great numbers. Tonight it was Will and Nino stepping up.

“We had five guys in double figures, so I think that is what our team is about. If you take Rodney away, there are still some other people who can make some plays.”


Just like Phil Forte (26 points) and Brady Heslip (20 points) before him, Spradling found himself open on the perimeter too often for Huggins’ liking.

“We did a terrible job guarding him. You give him open shots, he’s going to make ’em,” the coach said.

Spradling was 5-of-9 overall and 2-of-4 from 3-point range, scoring 11 points more than his season average.

“If we’re guarding the shooter and all he does is shoot, then you shouldn’t be the one giving the most help,” said West Virginia point guard Juwan Staten.

“I think we’re kind of backward. When it’s a guy that can’t really shoot, I feel like we’re hugging him. But then when we’ve got a guy who can shoot, that (defender) is the one giving the most help. I don’t really know the reason for that. It’s just something we’ve got to watch on film and try to fix.”


Thanks to a Big 12 policy precluding teams from introducing head coaches along with the starting lineups, the pregame reception for Huggins was anticlimactic, especially in light of the buildup for his return to the Little Apple after leaving six seasons ago.

“I like this place — the people have been wonderful,” Huggins said after the game. “It’s always nice to see people you haven’t seen in a while, but at the end of the day, it’s a business trip. We’re supposed to win. We didn’t.”


Mountaineers center Aaric Murray just missed a double-double with nine points and nine rebounds. He was 0-of-3 from 3-point range but also had several misses from point-blank range to finish 4-of-12 overall.

Staten played turnover-free ball for 20 minutes, finishing with eight points and eight assists. The sophomore also made three steals.


The sophomore Williams, who entered the night averaging 4.5 points, had 13 for K-State — his highest output in 12 games.

“Coach Weber just told me and some of the guys who were not playing that much in conference play to just keep a good attitude and keep our heads up because we are going to get an opportunity,” Williams said. “You do not know when, but it is going to come. I just kept a good attitude and Shane (Southwell) got into foul trouble, so I got my opportunity and I just tried to play hard and do the little things.”

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  • wvtd

    just wait until next year or the year after that and maybe even the year after that. fat suit huggins will have some one recruit some smart players.

    he should have stayed at k state and ran that program down.

    • Stan

      Why the personal comments about Huggs weight? He doesn't come to your house and make comments about the way you look. You people are amazing.

      • Shawn

        These are the same fans who complain the whole time they are watching the games. I don't buy season tickets to WVU football games because you cant enjoy the game due to sh*tty rude fans who yell and scream just like the claim our coaches to do.

        They should do some renovations to the football/basketball stadiums and make a Douche Bag section for all those negative fans who want to complain the entire time.

        • big tom

          that's it, cut down our facilities,, humm you're too good to pay for a ticket to watch the eers,,, just another fair weather fan that we don't need supporting our teams..

          • stan

            Nobody was cutting down the facilities. And you seem to be the fair weather fan around here.

          • big tom

            another kool-aid drinker who bathes in mediocrity.

        • Stan

          Having a Douche Bag section would be nice. They wouldn't be able to fill it up in basketball though. They will go to a football game because they can get wasted before it starts, but they usually don't go to many basketball games. People like big tom, larry, and william are leaches. They just get on these boards and complain but they never give a cent to the program. They for the most part just watch on TV and complain. Once in a blue moon they may go to a game.

    • shawn

      The Fat Suit comments make you sound like a 14 year old Drama Queen Dumb A**! You, Big Tom, Larry and William should stay off this website and start meeting up at McDonalds to express your concerns about how Huggs looks. Its obvious you guys are infatuated with his looks.

      If you have opinions, how about you keep them focused on the team, their play and what they need to focus on for the remainder of this year and the start of next.

      • big tom

        if we did meet up at mcdonalds , we'd see you flipping the burgers,you punk idiot... go back in your hole, drink the kool-aid and tell your sister i said hello..

        • wvtd

          i bet he was the one who was wiping the commodes with one hand and had a burger in the other. he probably wears psu fat suits too so cut em a break.

          • Larry

            Hey Hey Hey!!! Here Now...

            You all leave "little shawn" alone...

            He's Bob Huggins little nephew.

        • Shawn

          HAHA that's awesome Big Tooty! As always your comments are right in tune with a 4 year old!

  • tony

    it is so painfully obvious we dont have the talent to compete against these guys THIS year. we just dont have good scorers. we will as they mature but it will be a miracle to finish 500 at this point. who will be shed this year? should be interesting to see. lets go mounties....

  • shawn

    For those of you who talk of forfeiting the games, that shows how much you really know about sports and being competitive. The problem today is that people in general cant deal with adversity. When things are going good they are on top of the world but when the turn bad then its time to give up or blame somebody else. This is the world we live in today and its a pure shame. Forfeiting games is asinine and shows how much you really know about competitive sports. There will always be hard/down years and fans, players and coaches have to be willing to work through the adversity.

  • Jethro

    Also btw big 12 refs call too tight of games.

  • Jethro

    I feel bad for this team and coaches. I pray we get some good shooters next year. I disagree with forfeiting the games. This teams needs all the experience it can get. As a true fan of the mountaineers i will watch and root for my states team

  • shawn

    Am I happy about last night? NO! But what can i do about it? I'm putting this game on the players because they are the one's out there playing the game, not Huggins. We make stupid mistakes and get lazy on both ends of the floor.

    These kids havent learned how to play together and it will take another offseason to sort out who wants to play and who doesnt.

    Everybody wants to put full blame on Huggs but when I watch this team all I see are kids standing around looking confused. They don't come to the ball, they don't take the open shots, and they simply cant pass. It seems that Huggs needs to go back and teach the fundamentals of basketball.

    After saying that, I will also say that this team is still young and they will learn from their first year in the Big 12, just like the football team. People seem to forget that you have to adjust to the new league, recruit the right players, get them to buy into the system, and then put the travel right on top of that! I dont like to make excuses but I do like to make valid points and I feel like those are valid. LETS GO EERS!!!

    • william

      FIRE BOB HUGGINS - He is very overrated and is an embarrassment to the fans of WVU! How can a coach get away with talking to the referee like that? FU REF, FU REF! Now I KNOW WHY STATEN GAVE HUGGINS THE FINGER. HE LEARNED THAT FROM HIS COACH!

      • Jeff

        William and wvtd ... your insipid drivel is getting old, stale and monotonous. Instead of commenting on coach Huggs' attire and exposing your own ineptitude and illiteracy in athletics, you should probably go back to watching fashion shows on "Bravo" and "Logo" TV.
        In the meantime, you might want to take note of the little red lines that appear as you are typing. Unless you have actually given up on forming intelligible sentences in the traditional English language, you might want to make a few corrections before you post something else that is both stupid, AND grammatically butchered.

        • WVWho

          You don't need a comma before AND at the end.

    • Scott

      I agree with alot of what Shawn says. I said from the start of the year this team has no chemistry , but lately, they have looked to be playing harder and trying, but they are just bad. But one thing , they are winning games against teams now that are worse than they are, so thats one positive thing

  • Ryan

    I wish this website would ban some of you idiot posters. How can you think Huggs is a bad coach? The man is a legend. He got a standing ovation from the opposing crowd last night. When do you ever see that?

  • Hoffy

    Into each one's life a little rain must fall.
    Going through tough times will show the character of people in making a choice whether to give up or keep working to overcome the adversity. The mere suggestion this team should quit playing is the wrong message.
    I don't like what I saw tonight anymore than anyone else, but I'm not going to embrace a defeatist attitude just because I'm upset about the present state of affairs.
    That goes against my concept of "Mountaineer Pride". And I'm not going to back down during difficult times.
    Thank You.

    • graywv

      You are right on, a lot of BIG teams are haveing the same problem we are-its just something teams go through when they are rebuilding-remember we lost several players who would have been playing now(Drugs,Health,transfer ect hurt WV) We mostly started with kids that never played together-plus throw them in a new league( From the Big East where you pound your opponet-to the Big 12 where the refs are the show calling more fouls in one game than 20 games-in the Big East)Look at Kentucky,North Carolina and others who are loaded with High School All-Americans-with 5-on the floor and 10 on the bench and they aren't winning like they use to either.

  • pghmountaineer

    A memo to Oliver Luck. You can hire me as the basketball coach for 1/3 of what you're paying the current coach and I promise it won't be any worse. If it is, I'll give the money back.

  • pghmountaineer

    I think this team should forfeit all remaining road games including the Big 12 tourney. It would be the right thing to do and it would save the university some money that can be spent on something useful like the girls basketball program.


    Remember this from Sweatsuit Huggins-


      'It's my fault, I will fix it'!

      • wvtd

        in a year or two, pass me another beer.

  • big tom

    if i had five harris's and browne;s i could go undefeated, well not quite but they give 100%. Harris lost his composure tonight, but he's still a good ball player.
    Kilicili is playing 200% better than the first half of the season.
    Murray has talent, why can't huggie tap it? I don't know what goes on behind closed doors but Murray could be real real good.
    Now, we simply don't know how to score,that's been our problem all season, and if it weren't for KJ that would have been the same last year.
    If we could get two new recruits next year that could burn 3:s, we could be a changed team.
    and last... i'm am not very big, but if huggie tallked to me like he did to henderson, i'd kick his butt so hard he would wish he was still coaching a kstate. that is simply embarrassing for the kid , but all of wv, and luck should talk to huggie about that... that is completely classless...Henderson is just a freshman,, he has alot to learn, Huggie has forced that young man into this mess, and now throws him under the bus,,, this is sad.



      • John



    This must be a first - SWEARSUIT HUGGINS makes one of his players cry on the bench! - MAYBE HE SHOULD YELL AT THEM A LITTLE MORE! Huggins is a embarrassment on the court, he like to put on a show, because he loves the ATTENTION!

    • Luke

      And you played where Bill?

    • Hoffy

      You seem to like it, too. :)

      • Charleston,WV

        I second what Hoffy stated.

  • pghmountaineer

    I never thought I would see our football and basketball programs fall so far so fast. Maybe we don't pay our coaches enough money.
    Just a thought.

    • JERRY

      Huggins has double digit losses 6 of last 7 years.....I think $2 miilion is way to much. Plus the athetlic department is $13+ million in the RED

  • pghmountaineer

    It's obvious we have no chance of wining this game tonight, but man, it is horible to watch as a fan when a good portion of the game is going to be played at the foul line.The refs are taking over the game.