U.S. Senator Joe Manchin from Thursday's Talkline

U.S. Senator Joe Manchin says “the fight’s not over” when it comes to his proposal to expand federal background check requirements to gun sales at shows and online.

The compromise amendment the Democrat crafted with Republican Pennsylvania Senator Pat Toomey did not get the 60 votes needed to avoid a filibuster in the U.S. Senate on Wednesday.

Sen. Manchin, a member of the National Rifle Association, talked about the 54-46 vote on Thursday’s MetroNews Talkline.  “If the NRA did not score and would not score, I predict we would have had 70 votes for this bill,” he said.

Four Democrats who are facing tough reelections next year in rural states voted against the Manchin-Toomey Amendment.  Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid cast a “no” vote for procedural reasons, allowing the proposal to be taken up again.

Including Senator Toomey, three other Republicans voted for the proposal on Wednesday.  They were Maine Senator Susan Collins, Illinois Senator Mark Kirk and Arizona Senator John McCain.

Sen. Manchin says it was not a last minute plan.  “We didn’t just throw it together because we thought we had to have something on the floor.  We’ve been working it for the last three months or more.  We’ve had everyone’s input.”

The Manchin-Toomey Amendment to the gun control legislation was one of more than half a dozen proposed amendments the U.S. Senate rejected on Wednesday.

The proposal was introduced after 26 people, most of them kids, were shot to death in December at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut.

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Comments

  • John

    Hey Joe, Hope you enjoyed your first and last term. Lets make laws about placing bombs and using knives to hurt people. It wont help a bit. Next you'll want background checks on pressure cookers.

  • Shadow

    Joe would you show that picture again of you shooting a gun or was it the Pinocchio president? I forget but maybe both of you.

  • Jt

    LOL, love all the negative comments, the end of the far right Republican Party is getting closer to extinction. 90 % of the public is for better background checks, get out and see the real world.

    • Shadow

      If you don't like the Constitution as it it is, amend it per its direction. However, I researched it carefully and I didn't see the word "poll" in it once. Would you quote me Chapter and Verse!

    • NorthernWVman

      its all in the manner the questions are asked

  • CaptainQ

    Manchin is 'looking for votes' in the Senate? I think Joe better be MORE concerned with 'looking for votes' in West Virginia because if he doesn't 'mend his fences' here FAST, he won't BE a U.S. Senator after 2018.

  • Shawn

    Just what we need. More gun control. I mean those laws against building and exploding bombs are working out real well for us.

  • docbegone

    We’ve been working it for the last three months or more. We’ve had everyone’s input.”

    He's talked to everyone, but the citizens he is supposed to represent.

    Joe, you are already a "lame duck senator". You will hear the citizens of West Virginia speak at your next election attempt.

  • Dave

    I have a memory like an elephant...so I WILL remember you Joe and make sure everyone around me does also...when I cast my vote as an elephant to put you out on your rear-end!

  • Dave

    Long way from this

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/video/manchin-shoots-cap-trade-tv-ad-11851029

  • JJ

    Damion and wowbagger, thank you for your lucid and informed contributions, because they are as accurate and well weitten as anything I've seen on Metronews in a good while.

  • Damion45

    It is the strident rhetoric from the left that they will fight for gun control 'now and forever' that is causing so many of us to resist all attempts to restrict the law abiding. We now that the plan is to register and ban firearms. The DOJ even put it in writing that background checks without registration will do nothing to reduce violent crime. Even liberals admit that expanding background checks would not have prevented the Newtown (and other) mass shootings. While Obama can rant and cry, and the progressives can argue on emotions, the simple fact is that we don't want your phony solutions...now or later. As you continue to fight to deny the law abiding our rights, we will continue to resist with all our resources. It is not the NRA who is beating you. It is the people. And hopefully that lesson will be taught during the next election. How soon you forget 1994.

  • Brian

    Don't worry Mr.Manchin. You'll get all the votes you need when the good people of West Virgina vote for the other guy to get your sorry butt out of office.

  • WVremembersFlight93

    Either you move closer to the Founders' intent or you move away from it. No, Senator Manchin, the fight is NOT over.

  • Wowbagger

    Analysis of a couple of points in the Schumer-Toomey-Manchin Ammendment:

    "The proposal would have heinously restricted the Second Amendment rights of Americans. It would have opened the door for national gun registries and more restrictions that Barack Obama wants to happen.

    This was another step in Obama's assault on the Constitution and Joe Manchin has proven himself a loyal foot soldier.

    There were some basic statutory construction problems. If you looked at section 923 of the bill only the Attorney General would have been specifically prevented from centralizing records and having a gun registry; however, the concern was that once you began to enumerate who can and can't do things, the absence of other departments means that others were not restricted."

    Hmmmm ... Homeland Security perhaps!

    "The folks who drafted this amendment do this sort of thing all the time and they know how to leave insidious loopholes. That's exactly what was there.

    It's not a good idea to infringe upon the rights of Americans by adding asterisks to the Constitution.

    Further, Manchin's amendment took away the willful intent element required for federal prosecution. Therefore, any citizen who noticed a gun on the ground at a gun show, picked it up and gave it to an undercover agent would have committed a crime according to Joe Manchin.

    Senseless violence is not fixed by senseless and flawed legislation.

    Thankfully this latest impractical romp through political theater has turned out to be just another irrelevant attempt to climb the liberal ladder by Joe Manchin. "

    • Bottom Feeder

      Good Points!

      If anyone should think that the "annointed One" is not drooling over the very real possibilities that he is not far from a National gun registration policy, then they must have a very short memory....this is the same Muslim Brother that wants to use Drones to kill US citizens in their back Yard!!

      • Wowbagger

        On another level this was purely political. This measure was supposed to pass the Senate and be rejected by the House giving Obama ammunition to try to take back the House in 2014 and have free reign to steer the US into whatever left wing scheme he wants for the next two years. Joe is a willing accomplice, in my opinion. He is really mad at the Democrats who voted against this amendment.

  • Teufel

    Joe and the liberal left, just don't get it, demonizing responsible gun owners, the NRA and its members, like myself is not going to get it done. Manchin is so out of touch with his constituients
    I support the NRA and the NRA represents me.

    • Jeremy

      Me Too!

    • Bill Hill

      Agreed. Like you, I support the NRA and the NRA Represents me. They have to since Manchin, the left, and RINOs don't

  • Geno

    This bill was a insult to the 26 people killed at Sandy Hook

    • NorthernWVman

      and an insult to all law abiding firearms owners