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10/05/2009
Hoppy Kercheval
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Hoppy's Commentary for Monday
Talkline Host Hoppy Kercheval
Give me that old time religion.

Give me that old time religion.

Give me that old time religion.

It's good enough for me.  (Traditional hymn)

Today, the "old fashioned" way of practicing religion does continue do just fine for a lot of folks.  West Virginia is a good example of how the traditions of God-fearing, church-going, sin and salvation continue to be practiced today.

There remains in our country a strong sense of faith.  The new poll by Parade Magazine shows that 69 percent of Americans believe in God and 77 percent pray outside the church.   Only five percent of those questioned don't believe in God, while seven percent weren't sure.

But the new poll finds that while America remains one of the most religious countries in the west, our view of what makes a person religious and how we practice our faith is changing.

More of us today are willing to consider ourselves "spiritual" without necessarily being traditional church-goers.   The Parade poll says one-fourth of Americans put themselves in the category of "spiritual, but not religious."

Author Christine Wicker, who has written four books about faith and spirituality and penned the piece in Sunday's Parade, said of this relatively new development, "Some may be members of traditional religions, but want to signal that they aren't legalistic or rigid."

But these folks are hard to classify, Wicker points out, because the concept of "spiritual without being religious" can mean different things to different people."

This broader view of faith is likely also responsible for people being more tolerant of other beliefs.

The Parade poll found that only 12 percent believe their religion is "the only true faith."  Fifty-nine percent answered that all religions are valid.

This tolerance extends to critical life decisions, but only so far.  Eight out of every ten Americans would consider marrying someone of another religion.  But, Wicker points out that almost the same number would not consider changing their religion.

Half of us pray every day, but don't do it because we fear God's wrath if we don't pray.  Rather, we want something from God. 

The Parade poll says 72 percent of us pray for the well-being of others.  Sixty percent pray for forgiveness.  But some of our prayers are somewhat less altruistic.  Twenty-seven percent pray for personal success and one in five pray for money or some material thing.

Interestingly, even though so much of Christianity--the dominant religion in America--is based on the afterlife, many of us have our doubts about what happens when we die.  The Parade poll found that just 43 percent "thought people go to heaven or hell depending on their actions on earth." 

Wicker concludes that these and other results of the Parade poll confirm some of the generalities we have about faith; most of us believe in God, pray and teach our children to do the same.

But Wicker says the poll also shows that beyond the common themes, there are complexities and subtleties that are not as easily understood.  Our spirituality is less structured than it used to be.

"Americans are a very practical people," Wicker says, "moderate and tolerant in ways that would have astonished our grandparents."

 


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Hopester, is it 2009 or 1709? Seems to me it's more like 1709.
i think the basic issue is that you can "serve" mankind in a number of ways that do not involve the church anymore. Many people who volunteer and do the good works don't go to church or volunteer with the church because of the intolerance of the church or its members. in addition americans are an independent lot. if you believe as clair says but don't happen to agree with a particular piece of church rules we tend to feel it is okay to break faith and believe as we wish. it is the amercian way; i am entitled to my opinion. most churches have very little to offer young people nowadays and they are too strict and tightlaced to attract them. as long as they continue to alienate the young their numbers will decline.
Most West Virginians have not been church attenders for a very long time. As reported by the churches, only 41% of West Virginians were members or regular attenders of churches or synagogues in 1952, 39.5% in 1980. In 2000 (the latest available) the percentage was 35.9%. As reported by individuals, regular attendance (weekly or more) nationally dropped from 38% to 31% from 1972 to 2006; state numbers are not readily available.

The church membership numbers do not include historically African-American churches because most did not participate in the 1980 survey, and few in 2000. Adjusted for those, the 2000 percentage is 40.4% in 2000, and was probably that much higher in 1980. The largest loss in numbers from 1980 to 2000 were in the American Baptist Churches in the USA and the United Methodists, but only because they were and still are by far the largest Protestant denominations, and the Catholic Church, which is larger in West Virginia than the American Baptists but smaller than the United Methodists, counts parishioners differently. The Southern Baptists and Freewill Baptists picked up the largest numbers, but not nearly as much as mainline churches lost. Mainline churches lost 150,000 members; evangelicals gained only 21,000.

See the Association for Religious Data Archives for lots of statistics: http://www.thearda.com
Well said Captain Q. It is a shame that we treat Sunday pretty much like any other day of the week. Ultimately only one person will judge your behavior. If you do not wish to attend “regular” church services, that is certainly your right, however, if you have had a problem in the past with a minister or a congregation, there are certainly more out there, don’t use that as an excuse not to go to services. Part of the religious experience is the interaction of people which can then lead to serving others in many valuable ways. Look for a Church that not only supports your basic belief system, but also one that makes you look inside yourself in order to make you a better person or at least makes you strive to be a better person. As our minister says “we are all cracked pots”, which I readily admit that I am, thank goodness for my Church.
Well said Captain Q. It is a shame that we treat Sunday pretty much like any other day of the week. Ultimately only one person will judge your behavior. If you do not wish to attend “regular” church services, that is certainly your right, however, if you have had a problem in the past with a minister or a congregation, there are certainly more out there, don’t use that as an excuse not to go to services. Part of the religious experience is the interaction of people which can then lead to serving others in many valuable ways. Look for a Church that not only supports your basic belief system, but also one that makes you look inside yourself in order to make you a better person or at least makes you strive to be a better person. As our minister says “we are all cracked pots”, which I readily admit that I am, thank goodness for my Church.
Hoppy, I also read the article in Parade with interest. Our Church recently went indepented and our attendance soared for fifty some to near eighty without any recruirting except to invite people who didn't attend any Church. We are a rural Church who just use the King James Version of the Bible as our guide. Everyone of any faith or belief is welcome so long as they believe that Jesus is the son of God and died on the cross for our sins. Hoppy their is no middle ground. God says you are either for me or against me if you are lukewarm I will spew thee out of my mouth. This is not my opinion just the word of the Lord and i'm not about to question that. Thanks, Clair.
Hoppy, discussing religion can be dangerous, especially in rural WV where the traditional "local theology" is a combination of Baptist and Pentecostal, no matter what denominational name is on the church door (Presbyterian, Methodist, Nazarene, etc). Overall in WV, there is an odd mix in the major Protestant denominations of increasing liberal clergy preaching to staunchy conservative/traditional congregations. I am reminded of an incident several years old in a major denominational church in Elkins where its Pastor came out publicly in support of homosexual/lesbian marriage and church membership. This event tore both the church and the Christian community in town in half! However, it was interesting to note that the vast majority of the letters of support for the pro-GBLT minister came from out of state non-church members while the opposition came mostly from both the church's congregation and the local community. I can also recall an number of years ago the WV chapter of the American Baptist church convention came within a few votes of leaving the denomination over it's pro-GBLT stance. The majority of WV Protestants are by nature, conservative/traditionalist which explains why there are so many strong Independent, Non-Denominational and Pentecostal churches all over the state. If the major traditional Protestant denominations don't 'wake up' and realize that most WV congregations will never accept liberal theology, I fear they will all be eventually wiped out. There are already declining numbers attending them, the stats show this to be true.

The bottom line is, most non church going people believe that either, as you point out Hoppy, they can "pray at home" and/or organized churches are too judgmental and domineering. This and the fact that an increasing number of WVians are forced to work their jobs on Sundays (and kids play their sporting events like youth soccer on Sundays) means fewer people are available to attend church. This is a sad development that will only worsen over time. Our youth are more oriented towards You Tube, Facebook and Twitter than they are towards Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Reaching young people with the Gospel message is more challenging today than ever. I'd hate to see the Christian Church in America become marginalized like it is in England today where there are huge, centuries old churches that are rarely attended for Sunday services.

There's even a Biblical ignorance in America that I've never seen before. Many years ago, your West Virginia Media colleague Bray Cary once attributed the ancient Chinese saying "if you give a man a fish, he will eat for a day, if you teach a man to fish, he will eat for a lifetime" to Jesus Christ. Clearly an increasing number of people (even those who claim to be Christian) are not placing their religion in the center of their lives. Only time will tell how much this 'erosion of faith' will affect our society.

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