CHEAT MOUNTAIN, W.Va. — A logging truck driver is dead and dozens more are injured following an accident on Cheat Mountain Friday afternoon involving a logging truck and a train.

It happened around 2 p.m. at a crossing on Route 250 near the Randolph County and Pocahontas County line.  Route 250 was reopened Saturday night.

“The first call came in to the Pocahontas County 911 at 1:26 p.m. and it was the conductor calling 911, the conductor of the train,” said Lawrence Messina, spokesman for the state Dept. of Military Affairs and Public Safety.

Randolph County Office of Emergency Services Director Jim Wise said “somewhere between 50 to 60 people are slightly injured to injured and three are critical.”

Messina said Friday night that 62 people had been transported to Davis Memorial Hospital in Elkins after the train crash, three of them with critical injuries, according to hospital records.

“Davis reports that 43 people were taken to that hospital by bus, of those four were treated,” he said. “Another 19 were taken to Davis by ambulance, so we have totals of 23 people treated and 39 people who declined initial screening.”

On Friday evening, state officials confirmed the person who was killed was driving the truck that slammed into the side of the train as it crossed Route 250. The driver was identified Saturday as Danny Lee Kimble Sr. of Frank.

State Department of Highways officials tell MetroNews there are warning lights at the crossing and they were operating.

The train is the Cheat Mountain Salamander, a privately owned tourist train operated by Durbin and Greenbrier Valley Railroad.  According to its website, the Cheat Mountain Salamander takes passengers on “mountain wilderness excursion rides.”  This time of year the ride is popular among tourists because of fall foliage.

Governor Tomblin issued a statement saying, “Our thoughts and prayers are with all those involved and the emergency responders working the tragic accident in Randolph County this afternoon.  My administration is working with all agencies involved to ensure the first responders and emergency managers on the ground are receiving the assistance they need.”

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  • Bill K.

    To avoid confusion my comment was meant for rob pine.

  • Pat Turner

    My condolences to the truck driver and the injured.
    As a Railroad engineer I can tell you that in crossing thousands of crossing each year I have NEVER seen the crossing lights not work except in the case of a power failure (not a city power failure as RR lights have their own power supply most of the time) and even then most lights have a battery back up and continue to work. On all modern crossings (within the last 15+ years) there are event recorders just like planes have to tell when the lights went on, signals, when the train crossed, etc... There are also small, bright white lights on the side of each red crossing light that flash at the same time as the red lights to let the engineer know that the red lights are working.
    If you are going to comment on a topic please at least know what you are talking about!
    Trains have the right of way. Vehicles are suppose to be under control approaching a RR crossing just as you would be approaching a traffic light that was changing colors. Read and know the laws.

    • rob pine

      wow ---you must have eyes of a eagle also to be able to see a signal a couple thousand feet before you get there.. Funny the few crossings i get around almost always have hatcheting gates---wires pulled out of the gate lights---gates flopping up and down --- Same with the head of school buses here.

  • jss

    marlinton, yes I jumped to a conclusion; however, this based on experiences with overloaded log (and mechanically deficient) trucks traveling at excessive speeds.

    • Jerry D

      Mechanical failures are possible on anything from an older truck way up to even a new rig... Anything can fail at anytime!

      Don't be an ass, this gentleman lost his life trying to provide a better life for him and his family. I'm sorry to hear about this, I pray for his family and everyone that was injured. Truckers are some of the nicest people you will ever meet in your life!

  • The bookman

    Also raining on the mountains today....that crossing is located at cheat bridge...shavers fork of the cheat river is located at that specific location...fog frequently is a problem at anytime there, but especially on rainy fall and spring days... Could have been a massive loss of life...prayers go out to the driver who was working hard to earn a living in a dangerous line of work, and to his family and those injured...

  • rob pine

    Guaranteed train drivers kill 85 people to truckers 1 in a 100 million miles.

    • jss

      Citation needed.

    • Bill K.

      Perhaps you should go back to playing with your toy trains in the basement and leave the comments to people who know what they're talking about. Seriously...

      • Bill K.

        To avoid confusion this comment was meant for rob pine

    • Andy

      Yep, all those train engineers just don't know how to hit the brakes quick enough, swerve in and out of their lanes, and tailgate

    • Mike Mullins

      Rob, "Train Drivers" don't "kill" anyone. Coming from yet another Train Engineer, trains can't swerve, stop on a dime, or slam it in reverse - unlike a road vehicle. You're barking up the wrong tree, let it go. You're getting your internet jollies off of the misfortune of others. That tells a lot about the type of person that you may be. My positive thoughts to all whom are affected.

      • rob pine

        Train drivers kill at least 3 people a day. Their like the DC Snipers ---train guy in trunk and government driving them around. Nobody else is stupid enough to drive a big rig with no brakes or steering more out of control than any driver 4X over the limit.

        If you ...can't swerve, stop on a dime, or slam it in reverse...then slow it down. Or in this case drive through dense fog across a state highway.

        • lucinda p

          My 3 year old said it was an engineer and they do not drive a train because they do not have a steering wheel . I did not know that 3 people a day committed suicide by train. That is alot.

          • rob pine

            Well Lucinda P ---It takes a pretty no morals individual to take a dead persons name killed by a train and use it on a message board. So A. Your a railroad paid hired gun B. A government paid hired gun or C. A very sick puppy with trains as GODs on the brain which many seemed afflicted with. Your weigh like 500 pounds ---40 years old living in your mommas basement sucking twinkies all day thinking you are cool making crass statements.

            Now take some Kounty Kiss corn ---whole kernal --- sewing thread ---and go down to this creek and catch some trout.

          • Retired FRA Inspector

            Pines, from your senseless posts, it appears that you are the sick puppy.

          • lucinda p

            Rob, I do not know what you mean by paid gun or hired gun. All of my guns were bought at Walmart and the government did not pay for them. I have two boys and tell them to obey the law and use common sense.

            I can tell by the pictures that the truck had numerous violations and was speeding. Trucks cause 14 deaths a day and should not operate when there is fog. They are always speeding and have sucky breaks.

            I do not fish but thanks for the tip. I am not a dead person.

          • rob pine

            lucinda p ---Your PHONEY is hanging out. All you tell from the truck is that it was wrecked. Go crawl back into the ooze you came out of. Now go tell your foamer club/railroad owners/ or Feds you need to be replaced.

          • lucinda p

            Rob, there is nothing phoney about me. You seem to be a very mean person. I do know what a foamer club is but it sounds like you are being nasty.
            You must be involved in the trucking industry to be protecting them like you do. The picture clearly shows the pilot of the truck was speeding and no co pilot. Trucks should not be allowed to operate at night, in rain, snow, or fog. They do not even have rear view mirrors. They are always speeding and the brakes never work. In fact they need to be banned from interstate all together and Max speed should be 15 mph. They cause 12 deaths in every 10000 miles driven.

          • Retired FRA Inspector

            Lucinda P, I believe that for some reason Pines feels guilty about his wife's death, and has entered into a life-long mission of demonizing others to ease that guilt. Perhaps if he were better educated, he would be more effective in his endeavor. But as everyone has seemed to notice, he makes nothing but foolish statements. His attack against you makes him look foolish beyond belief!

          • D. P. Lubic

            Lucinda, at the risk of being offensive, I'm going to give you (and the others here) some advice. This Pine fellow is what some would call a "troll," someone who says outrageous things to get attention. Maybe he suffers from the loss of his wife in a grade crossing accident, maybe even that is made up (you can't really tell here).

            The point is, he gets attention when people respond to him. Best advice--ignore him. Let him get frustrated like a child that doesn't get attention. In the process, he will reveal himself to be the fool he is.

            I am reminded of a saying you used to here, but don't much anymore, that went "You can't make a monkey out of me!" I believe it had its origins in the Scopes "monkey trials" of the 1920s, which were about the teaching of evolution in schools. This was the person saying, in effect, "You can't make a fool out of me!"

            That's actually true. Neither you, nor me, nor anyone else can make someone a fool or a "monkey." We can only reveal that someone is a fool or a "monkey!" And in the case of this fellow, we don't even have to do that--he does it himself! Ho, ho, ho, ho, ho!!!

    • Dub

      Would you like to expand on that rob pine, I am a train "driver", are you calling me a murderer? Why do we kill people? Cause most people who get killed are either trespassing or to damn impatient to wait for my train. It sure ain't because we go out looking for someone to kill on a daily basis.

      • Retired FRA Inspector

        Pines has been on this kick ever since his wife was killed at a railroad crossing. Apparently his mission in life is to spread as much misinformation as possible about railroad crossing accidents and other incidents involving railroads. He does everything in his power to paint railroad employees as being evil. But his writing style, or lack thereof, quickly reveals his lack of intellect.

        • Shadow

          I don't have a dog in this fight but some of the things that Rob Pines has been saying makes sense.My sense is that he is treading on your toes. Your discussion of an accident investigation was good except that the idiots are in the Senate.

          • jbl

            Shadow. Mr pines is an expert the art of deception and lies. He fabricate lies about an industry he knows nothing about. He makes accusations without being able to provide facts to back up his claims. He will falsify information for his own agenda. The people you think he is stepping on toes are really the people who see right through his BS....AND Have no problem calling him out on it. He does not know how the rr industry is run....

            Just ask him about why a train needs an air bag and a steering wheel. Then get ready to laugh
            He has been warned by the FRA to stop sending in false reports about accidents he knew nothing about. In fact he has no clue about the railroad and its operation. He is not CREDITABLE...FACT

          • rob pine

            Yep ---eight foot flood wall/or sound wall ---right by river ---right in front of road entrance signal lights at a CSX yard in Kentucky. Like 10 collisions. Federal Railroad-bought Association couldn't find anything wrong.

            I believe Texas ---Train takes out tractor trailer ---train still sitting there with gates sticking straight up in air ---All kinds of video evidence---FRA couldn't find nothing wrong.

          • Retired FRA Inspector

            Shadow:

            I don't have a dog in this fight either old boy. And Pines doesn't tread on anyone's toes because his comments DON'T make any sense. I told you here and at CSX-SUCKS that I speak out against Pines because he tries to portray conductors and engineers as murders. And that dog ain't gonna hunt!

    • jbl

      500,000 trucks are in involved in accidents every year causing over 5000 DEATHS...98% of all railroad crossing ac indents are the fault of the driver

    • rob pine

      The updated Fatality Analysis Reporting System (FARS) data shows 2011 also saw the lowest fatality rate ever recorded, with 1.10 deaths per 100 million vehicle miles traveled in 2011, down from 1.11 deaths per100 million vehicle miles traveled in 2010. (1 fatality per 90,909,091miles traveled)
      SELECTION: RAILROAD - ALL / January TO December, 2012
      Total fatalities: 700
      Total nonfatal conditions: 8,253
      Total train miles: 731,654,465
      Switching miles: 85,844,207
      So railroads should have like 9 deaths in 811 million miles NOT 700 (numbers really hid ---was 762 a couple months ago)

    • rob pine

      The updated Fatality Analysis Reporting System (FARS) data shows 2011 also saw the lowest fatality rate ever recorded, with 1.10 deaths per 100 million vehicle miles traveled in 2011, down from 1.11 deaths per100 million vehicle miles traveled in 2010. (1 fatality per 90,909,091miles traveled)
      SELECTION: RAILROAD - ALL / January TO December, 2012
      Total fatalities: 700
      Total nonfatal conditions: 8,253
      Total train miles: 731,654,465
      Switching miles: 85,844,207
      So railroads should have like 9 deaths in 811 million miles NOT 700 (numbers really hid ---was 762 killed a couple months ago)

    • lucinda p

      guarentee truck pilots kill 100 to railroads 0 in every 10 miles traveled

  • Marie

    Please have some feeling. The young man killed was the truck driver. I have always felt that was a bad location as the train is not a daily run there and it is hard to see until you are on top of it. Guess you would feel different if this was your family. I had friends who work on that train and are injured....so if you can't say anything nice....just be quiet.

  • Marlinton

    The log truck driver is deceased...you people that judge before you know the circumstances never cease to amaze me. Please get off your high-judge bench and let the facts come out before you say what YOU think. Many factors could have caused the truck driver to hit the train, and you could not possibly know what those factors were at this time. Prayers to the injured, and prayers to the family of the truck driver. Thank God that these rail accidents do not happen often, but remember, accidents happen everywhere. I love riding the train.

    • susanf

      It is possible, maybe even probable, that the brakes on his truck failed. They aren't the safest type of vehicles on the road.

      • jb

        Have YOU ever driven a logging truck? to ASSUME that? Human ERROR.

    • Bill

      Yea, probably speeding and overloaded, like 90% of the log truck do on secondary roads!

      • Don

        If I was a betting man I would bet that you are one of the people that break their necks to get out in front of a truck and go 100 feet and then turn off right in front of them as soon as you pull out and then wonder why trucks hit so many cars in the rear.... BILL.....

      • jb

        Assuming morons!

  • zerotolerance

    I believe this is the RR crossing in question on Google Street View:

    https://maps.google.com/maps?q=durbin+wv&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF-8&ei=lGRYUsKSCsqCyQGRyYCADA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAg

    • Hillbilly

      It is NOT the crossing in Durbin. It is Northwest of there, in Randolph County, up on Cheat Mtn.

  • jss

    No excuses available for the truck driver. Negligent manslaughter at least.

    • really

      jss- It was the truck driver who lost his life in this accident...so no charges can/will/should be filed in that respect. A friend of mine was on that train and saw the logging truck coming at them. The cars just behind theirs are the cars that were flipped. Praying for all involved and the family of the truck driver. So sad.

      • jss

        so sad, indeed. Should not have been driving a heavy truck.

    • d7s

      manslaughter? The driver of the truck was killed.

    • Local

      I'm from the town this happened in. I know the driver personally and he was great at what he did. Notice I said was because he was crushed in the accident. You don't know what happened we don't know if it was mechanical or what. He has paid the ultimate price!!! I also had family in the car that was hit. So before you run your mouth get the whole story. Respect the man who lost his life.. Love and prayers to Danny's family, as well as, those injured.

      • Don

        Thank God for someone who can say something that knows that some times bad things just happen I drive a log truck my self so please give the family of the lost brother trucker and for your family in the train I am truly sorry for every ones loss

  • Danielle

    While you may be right about some truck drivers, someone should have taught you not to profile cuz it's rude. It was indeed the truck driver himself that died so I don't think it is appropriate to trash talk at this time. If he was driving recklessly then so be it, however now his family have to live with out him so please show some respect. My heart and prayers go out to the truck drivers family and friends, and my prayers are also with all those involved.

  • rob pine

    ...State Department of Highways officials tell MetroNews there are warning lights at the crossing and they were operating...

    How the heck would these railroad bought gooinie birds know what was working? They have a physic that runs in the railroads payoffs?

    • Jack Neubauer

      Rob, I would imagine that since the train had 2 cars on their side, that the train didn't finish clearing the crossing. Having said that, I'd bet the flashers were still illuminating when rescue personnel arrived.

      • rob pine

        Flashing after means not a thing. Railroads forget to tell the cops that when they train the cops. When lights started is the key. Occasional train ---tracks rust ---no signals.
        Leaves on tracks --- no signals.

        • B

          To rob pine, I have yet to see a train that was could not make contact with the rail due to leaves. You must be a genius to think that a 100 ton piece of equipment that can flatten a penny but can't make contact due to leaves.

          • Gran

            Plus, each of the two tipped cars (plus any other cars and the engine(s) had either four or six axles any one of which would complete the signal circuit, and because it is single-track, the circuit would extend in both directions. Next, while CSX, etc., could have the money to buy the cops (if, in fact, they do), that little tourist road likely is a "shoestring" operation. Finally, didn't I hear that there was no indication that the truck's brakes had been applied?

        • Dub

          Go back and play with your Lionel trains in the basement. Leaves on the tracks, no signals? Never in 15 years of running trains have I seen that. Rust? The railroad knows when trains haven't been over a section of track and issue orders to us to be prepared to stop and flag a crossing for such a condition. So shut your mouth and don't talk about something you know nothing about.

        • ?

          Mr. Pine,
          When Maintainers inspect crossings, one of their jobs is to determine if there are rusty rail conditions If so, this is posted by railroads via ways such as bulletin orders, and is covered under rules such as NORAC 138-C. Rules such as this cover what train crews are to do to properly protect a crossing, usually using a flagman and/or other required options. Also, with the talk of the curve in the road prior to the crossing, giving a lack of warning before you see the crossing, why did the truck run into the passenger cars and not the engine(s) then? With that said, it indicates the train was most likely occupying the crossing by the time the truck had a good visual on the crossing.

    • ?

      Railroad crossings require regular testing to be considered "in service", per federal laws. Also witnesses such as the people in the locomotive cab such as the Engineer (Driver), as well as sometimes a Brakeman or Conductor can confirm this. Of course don't forget passengers or other motorists that may have seen the flashing lights. Also, the relay cabinet at a crossing, after the fact of a collision will continue working if it senses a train or broken section of track. The cabinet can also be tested to confirm proper operation after an accident.

    • Spell Checker

      How's that? "Railroad bought gooinie birds", "physic", "railroads payoffs"?

    • Nobama!!!

      Rob
      You are ignorant beyond belief. You probably think the train swerved towards the truck.

    • desperate

      Emergency personnel reported that the signal was flashing when they arrived on the scene.

    • Lucinda P

      Someone also needs to tell the MetroNews that the trucks tires were retreaded and had a low air temper. These goonie birds at google can put a program in there web site for this. That way accidents like this can be avoided...

  • Habib Haddad

    The trucker could have lost his brakes or he may have been going too fast. Either way he paid for it with his life and left carnage in his wake. Prayers to all involved.

  • john

    There is a curve in the road going north and a downhill grade before coming to the railroad tracks. A loaded truck, probably pushing the speed limit would have much difficulty in stopping before hitting the train. There are red flashers, but they are located right beside the track. These warning flashers should be moved back up around the turn so that vehicles would be warned in time to come to a stop. The train is not in that area on a regular basis and drivers are not accustomed to seeing a train there. My condolences and concerns goes out to the family of the one that is deceased and concerns about the condition of the injured.

    • OneWV

      Well said John. That makes a lot of sense and clears things up. I think the state should heed your advice if this is indeed the case.

    • ?

      I too send my condolences to those who were injured or killed in this event. However, to make things clear about railroad crossing design. The signal itself cannot be moved up the hill, it is required that the signal be at the crossing itself. In some places with scenarios like this, a set of flashing lights (basically yellow road warning lights) or an illuminated sign can be placed prior to the crossing, similar to "Stop Light Ahead" illuminated signs, to give advanced warning, and can be several thousand feet before it. The only way to see this done is to contact your local government, as railroad crossing signals are usually combined funding between the railroad and the owner of the road, due to its cost and safety for both the train and the motorists. One thing also to be clear on as well, Operation Lifesaver's slogan, "Always Expect A Train", just because the trains are infrequent, all it takes is for someone to let their guard down that one day when a train is actually there.

      • Shadow

        Is there a spec against a second light? I doubt it!

        • rob pine

          Specs call for a second light.

          A train-activated advance warning sign should be considered at locations where the crossing flashing light signals cannot be seen until an approaching motorist has passed the decision point (the distance from the track from which a safe stop can be made). Use of the AAWS may require some modification of the track circuitry. Consideration should be given to providing a back-up source of power in the event of commercial power failure.

          AAWS is sometimes supplemented with a message, either active or passive, that indicates the meaning of the device, such as “Train When Flashing.” A passive supplemental message remains constant; an active supplemental message changes when the device is activated by the approach of a train.

          To allow the traffic queue at the crossing time to dissipate safely, the advance flashers should continue to operate for a period of time after the active control devices at the crossing deactivate, as determined by an engineering study.

          If such an advance device fails, the driver would not be alerted to the activated crossing controls. If there is concern for such failure, some agencies use a passive “Railroad Signal Ahead” sign to provide a full-time warning message. The location of this supplemental advance warning sign is dependent on vehicle speed and the geometric conditions of the roadway.

          AAWS should be placed at the location where the advance warning sign would normally be placed. To enhance visibility at crossings with unusual geometry or site conditions, the devices may be cantilevered or installed on both sides of the highway. An engineering study should determine the most appropriate location.

    • thetuch

      It is not the placement of the flashing lights at fault. There is signage in advance of every crossing warning of the motorists of their approach to a crossing. These signs are normally located 300 to 700 feet in advance of such crossings. In many locations there is also signage painted on the roadway itself in addition. Chances are this driver is familiar with the area and should know there is a crossing there. And the excuse the train doesn't normally operate on a regular basis is not an excuse. It is up to the motorist to be aware of an approaching train. Trains have the right of way, by law. And this is because of their size and weight.

    • Dub

      Doesn't matter that people aren't "accustomed" to seeing a train there all the time. Point is there are warning signs and I would bet the trucker had been down that same route before. Federal law dictates where a railroad crossing signal must be placed, and these signals are well within the law. Driver didn't have control of his truck, plain and simple.

      • yeah yeah

        I grew up in Durbin and the am very familiar with the area. There are many signs placed on either side of the crossing and many warning signals miles before. The man driving the truck was a local man that had driven that route time and time again. He knew where the crossing was and was aware that the train was running this time of year. The train is always running in September, October and sometimes into December. They inform the town of this as well as local log truck drivers, because driving a log truck is a very common job in the area. Maybe there was a medical issue, or some other unknown reason for the accident. Wait until the investigation is complete, then make your judgments.

    • Arthur

      I've ridden that train. The engineer blows his horn at every crossing, like any other railroad. It was deafening. No sensible person would drive up to a level crossing with a load of logs at 55 miles an hour, especially with limited visibility on a grade.

      • Someone

        Ive lived in this area for 16 years and have never seen that train cross there!!! People talk about it all the time but nobody ever sees it. The lights are so old that doh has tried getting them working but couldnt and whenever your coming the crossing you dont have time to stop unless your coming from elkins way where you even the turn and bridge!! He drove through that same place everyday about 12 trips, he never seen s train cross there!! Why would he exspect one to be there where hes never seen the tracks used??? You try driving that road in a loaded truck 55mph maybe more for the truck drivers whos getting paid by the load like most and trying to get that last load in and stopping on a dime its not going to happen!!! He was a good guy, drove truck many of years, the same road everyday!!! Dont assume he didnt have control and this and that!!!

        • WV Trucker

          I have been across Cheat Mtn many times with my 18 wheeler and have never seen a train cross the road BUT I always slow for the crossing because you never know when one will. No excuse should never of happened!!

          • Mike

            I agree with wv trucker I worked on this signal back in the spring and most of the traffic on that road drives way too fast. There is advance warning signs before the bridge but no one pays attention to them.What makes you think they will pay attention to a warning light. Let alone none of you know what is involved in or what it would cost to install an advance warning light at that location.SLOW DOWN

    • Don

      I agree with you John I drive a log truck for a living and it is not easy to stop one when they are loaded. The commonwealth of KY has it right they have caution lights that start flashing when the light is getting ready to turn red and it gives you time to stop safely and on route 17 from Madison to Sharples they have a crossing that is in the same situation as this one and they have a caution light 300 feet before the crossing around the curve so it can be done right but if the state and railroad up there are like the ones down here then you see one working and 15 watching or sleeping and I hate it that anyone die's but it will always be the truck drivers fault even if he would have been sitting still that is just how it is if a truck is involved then it is at fault

    • hyhybt

      If the drivers are accustomed to seeing train *tracks* there then they know they need to be prepared to stop in case they are occupied, even if they are usually clear.

  • leroy jethro gibbs

    how can a logging truck miss seeing a train?
    prayers to the victims

    • rob pine

      How? Plug in 38.610449,-79.869576 into Google map and sit the token down by the bridge. Sight requirements call for the trucker to be able to see the train 300 feet before the crossing. TREES.

      Look at the antique lights that came over on the Mayflower but yet the records have new crossing 2010.

      • SHADOW

        When you look at the distance required for a truck to stop at 55 MPH, it is 353 feet vs a 300 foot visibility requirement. I wonder what stopping distance was used in calculating when the lights would come on? I would bet it was not 353 feet, something less. I doubt if any green to red light in the state is based on that figure. Don't worry about the facts, it just kills a few people a year and that isn't worth waiting at a red light for 5 more seconds. The DOH Safety Dept should be disbanded and the function turned over to someone who could do the job.

        • Shadow

          Change 353 to 288, I misread the chart.

          • rob pine

            Shadow ---not too much digging would show many more feet of sight lines needed for downhill slope ---wet conditions--- road curvature---truck size.
            Pretty obvious the crossing is in violation of road design rules even if it was working.

          • Shadow

            The sad part about the stopping charts is that they are pure data and are used as Design Criteria. Most designs include a Safety Factor and, in this case, none is applied all over the State.

        • jb

          Yes disband DOH but don't stop there! One thing no one thinks about is that when its TIME its time, to go home! Don't matter where which ever way you go, when its time you're going home. For us here, well we have to deal with situation no matter how heart wrenching it is. Driver of log truck was only one called home. White light surround him to help him to THE LIGHT! Bless his soul.

        • rut trere

          In this case the lights as you speak are irrelevant. That driver eas going to fast. He grew up there, he knows the crossing and about that train. He was in a hurry. Wait until a wreck happens at Cass which it will with the two idiots shop foremen and that dumbass trainmaster!

          • sha

            how can you say that the truck driver was going to fast!! you act like you were in the truck with that man He could have had a heart attack or another medical problem that kept him from stopping!! thats the problem with non truck drivers and people that dont know anything about trucks.. more accidents are caused by cars than by semi's but since they semi's have a gross weight of 80,000 pounds the 1st thing that people want to do i blame the semi and all they see is A BIG PAYDAY!!
            so show some respect for that man whom lost his life and wait until the medical examiers report comes back and tells what happened to that man

      • SHADOW

        Thanks for the coordinates, it makes what you say perfectly clear to anyone who looks at it and knows how long it takes to stop a truck. It also makes my comment later in the dialog more significant. That man and others like him on Rt 50 in Clarksburg didn't need to die. As Mntnman says, it is a matter of priorities. So is it better to keep Cedar Lake open than to make the main highway red lights safe..... I think not.

      • jbl

        Pines wife was drunk when she tried to beat a BN train.

      • duh

        Hornswaggle Pines.. It does not matter if the sight line was 300 miles in each direction, the train was right in front of the driver, how blind can you be. The driver of the truck was irresponsible and completely at fault. I hope the police get his phone records and toxicology reports so the hurt passengers can get restitution from the owner of the trucking company. The signals worked as designed.

        • Shadow

          Have you ever heard of Momentum in other that WVU Football? Sorry to say but our Congress and Legislature have been unable to change the Laws of Physics. They work just as Newton described them some time ago.

        • rob pine

          A train-activated advance warning sign should be considered at locations where the crossing flashing light signals cannot be seen until an approaching motorist has passed the decision point (the distance from the track from which a safe stop can be made). Use of the AAWS may require some modification of the track circuitry. Consideration should be given to providing a back-up source of power in the event of commercial power failure.

          AAWS is sometimes supplemented with a message, either active or passive, that indicates the meaning of the device, such as “Train When Flashing.” A passive supplemental message remains constant; an active supplemental message changes when the device is activated by the approach of a train.

          To allow the traffic queue at the crossing time to dissipate safely, the advance flashers should continue to operate for a period of time after the active control devices at the crossing deactivate, as determined by an engineering study.

          If such an advance device fails, the driver would not be alerted to the activated crossing controls. If there is concern for such failure, some agencies use a passive “Railroad Signal Ahead” sign to provide a full-time warning message. The location of this supplemental advance warning sign is dependent on vehicle speed and the geometric conditions of the roadway.

          AAWS should be placed at the location where the advance warning sign would normally be placed. To enhance visibility at crossings with unusual geometry or site conditions, the devices may be cantilevered or installed on both sides of the highway. An engineering study should determine the most appropriate location.

          • Bean

            Evidently, no one has read the news today. Local emergency responders say there were no skid marks, no evidence the driver tried to stop at all. Don't blame anyone. It's a tragic accident. Thankfully, no one was seriously injured on the train, unfortunately, a man felt he was forced to work another 60-80 hour work week in an effort to provide for his family. It could be that he fell asleep. 250, across that mountain, is very straight. only a few curves in that 20 or so mile stretch.

            This Rob Pine guy is too far out there to dignify his posts with an answer. Please don't entertain him

      • ashlynmarie42

        This is true. I live in Pocahontas County, and I have never ever seen the train cross there. The lights are older than the hills and not very visible. He did not have breaks, and tried to swerve to miss the train. The rumors flying are ridiculous. It could've been anyone, including my father who is a Truck Driver.

    • Art in Ohio

      Problem with brakes?????

    • Barry Bledsoe

      How can you miss seeing a train? Who said he didn't see it? Have you heard the official report on the cause already? How do you know he didn't see it? Could he have had a mechanical problem? A medical problem? Stop making uninformed assumptions.

      • Laura

        I was on the train and he was flying down that hill. Our conductor followed every step he was suppose to, he sounded his horn prior to even reaching the crossing, the lights were flashing as well. I'm hoping it was a break issue as well. It's was a very scary tragic accident. I'm glad everyone on the train is ok.

    • idk do you

      the train track was like 10 yards away from a turn and also the driver hit the train because he didnt know it was there so you shouldnt be talking about someone who just died you dont know what other people are feeling

      • Bill

        Bulls---

      • ashlynmarie42

        Thank You. I'm friends with his sons, and they dont need to hear all this other trash. You are sooo right.

  • Michelle

    How sad. Sending prayers